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Question about delisting
« on: June 07, 2017, 11:13:00 AM »
I have been thinking about this for some time and I know there are some guys on here that can answer my questions.

When it comes to wolf delisting in Washington we are looking at breeding pairs (15-18) for 3 years. When wolves are "recovered" under the plan and delisted what is the criteria that needs to be met for them to stay delisted?

Will we be looking at a minimum pack requirement 15-18 or a minimum breeding pair requirement of 15-18?

Idaho has a minimum pack requirement (15)
Montana has a minimum breeding pair requirement (15) and a minimum wolf population requirement (150)
Wyoming has a minimum breeding pairs requirement (10) and a minimum wolf population requirement (100) All outside of Yellowstone
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Re: Question about delisting
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2017, 11:32:52 AM »
Recovery plan http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/00001/wdfw00001.pdf

p.64-65
Recovery Objectives
The following recovery objectives have been identified to transition from one listed status to the
next:

1. The gray wolf will be considered for downlisting from state endangered to threatened when 6
successful breeding pairs are present for 3 consecutive years, with:

•   2 successful breeding pairs in the Eastern Washington region,
•   2 successful breeding pairs in the Northern Cascades region, and
•   2 successful breeding pairs distributed in the Southern Cascades and Northwest Coast region.

2.  The gray wolf will be considered for downlisting from state threatened to sensitive when
12 successful breeding pairs are present for 3 consecutive years, with:

•   4 successful breeding pairs in the Eastern Washington region,
•   4 successful breeding pairs in the Northern Cascades region, and
•   4 successful breeding pairs distributed in the Southern Cascades and Northwest Coast region.

3.  The gray wolf will be considered for delisting from state sensitive when:

15 successful breeding pairs are present for 3 consecutive years, with:
•   4 successful breeding pairs in the Eastern Washington region,
•   4 successful breeding pairs in the Northern Cascades region,
•   4 successful breeding pairs distributed in the Southern Cascades and Northwest Coast region,
and
•   3 successful breeding pairs anywhere in the state. Or:
In addition to the delisting objective of 15 successful breeding pairs distributed in the three
geographic regions for 3 consecutive years, an alternative delisting objective is also established
whereby the gray wolf will be considered for delisting when:

18 successful breeding pairs are present with the following distribution:

•   4 successful breeding pairs in the Eastern Washington region,
•   4 successful breeding pairs in the Northern Cascades region, and
•   4 successful breeding pairs distributed in the Southern Cascades and Northwest Coast region,
and
•   6 anywhere in the state.

There is no requirement that wolves must go through each listed stage before downlisting or
delisting if they meet the recovery objectives. If the wolf population increased rapidly in numbers
and distribution, then it may be eligible for skipping a listing stage. For example, if 12 or more
successful breeding pairs became reestablished in the state in the first few years of the plan’s
implementation and met the distribution objectives for 3 consecutive years, then WDFW could
move ahead with downlisting from endangered to sensitive status.

The way I read the delisting criteria, at least 4 successful breeding pairs in each of the 3 recovery zones , plus at least 3 additional breeding pairs anywhere in the state, successful for three consecutive years; OR at least 4 successful breeding pairs in each of the 3 recovery zones , plus at least 6 additional successful breeding pairs anywhere in the state - in which case the 3 consecutive years requirement is waived.  My guess is the latter is the more likely scenario. 

Based on the latest on the WDFW website http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/, eastern Washington has 17 packs, North Cascades has three, and there are none in the Southern Cascades/NW Coast.  The biggest impediment to delisting is 4 confirmed breeding pairs or packs in the SC/NWC.

Once delisted, at least 4 packs/breeding pairs in each recovery zone, and at least 18 packs statewide, will need to be met for them to stay delisted.  At least, that is my interpretation, I'm NOT part of wolf management in any way.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2017, 11:54:29 AM by DOUBLELUNG »
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Question about delisting
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2017, 04:53:20 PM »
I understand the objectives for delisting I am just wondering that once delisted will those same objectives need to be met year to year to stay delisted or does the objective move from "breeding pairs" to packs or from "breeding pairs" to X number of wolves per year etc.

It still boggles my mind that Washington has a wolf delisting plan similar to Montana and Idaho but we have far more people, less wild areas and less wildlife.
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